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General Boards => Museum Submarine Discussion => Topic started by: Lance Dean on January 30, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
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SDIP = Ship Donation Inspection Program
I received this from the HNSA. How interesting this is! Apparently this is part of your annual NavSea inspection. The first part is a Self-Inspection Checklist. The second part is your actual SDIP Checklist. So from what I understand, you must complete this Self-Inspection Checklist prior to the NavSea inspection?
Check out the Self-Inspection Checklist. I never knew you guys had to do so much!
http://www.submarinemuseums.org/pics/misc/SDIPSELFINSPECT.xls
Also, here is the actual Checklist:
http://www.submarinemuseums.org/pics/misc/SDIPChecklistFY09.pdf
And just added, here is a schedule of what needs to be done how often:
http://www.submarinemuseums.org/pics/misc/InspectonItemList.pdf
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I have never seen a self inspection checklist, we just fix anything that was found on the previous inspection and take care of the things we know they normally look at, like putting some oil in the bilge because they write us up for that wether they look or not.
Tom
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The thing I could see from reading through it was that it makes a nice safety check list to have verified before someone comes around. it also reminds you of things that should be there and should be checked. I'll be taking a copy up to the Marlin and posting it as it will help us make sure we go through everything so someone doesn't turn on something or if something happens we know where things are. In my reading through the HNSA documents, I do believe that their manuals and discussions are valuable to help you do things the right way. Also they have a very complete list of grants and whre to go for them. I have sent that list to the grant writers for Omaha Parks. Also something else that I'll be doing is signing up the subvet volunteers as members of RSVP so that they are covered with free insurance when on the Marlin. It is only for those 55 and older, but that willl cover most who work on it anyway and then the RSVP person for Omaha will be recruiting other volunteers for us at no charge.
Viejo
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Just received clarification from HNSA. This Self-Inspection Checklist is something new and hasn't been officially implemented just yet.
Apparently this will be something required in the near future, however. That's why no one has heard of this before.
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From reading through it, seems like it is a good thing to use as a check off sheet.
Viejo
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Updated the original post to include the actual Checklist. I converted it to .pdf so everyone could read it.
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The NavSea folks attending the HNSA board meeting on Monday made "quite an IMPRESSION" on us... :knuppel2: :idiot2:
Something is afoot at NavSea and it isn't good. My intel sources say someone is suing NavSea over some ship and the shit hit the fan, causing brown mist to be blown in every ship's direction.
But the big bad wolf can't blow my ship down!
Paul
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Hey Paul
Can you give us any more details Please? Our inspection is 4 April.
Tom
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Being a dry berth you don't have much to worry about. The checklist that is posted here is chock full of N/A columns for dryberth ships. Basically they want us to do most of the checklist type of stuff for them... the real change (to me) is the mindset back in DC ... they are reacting to something and that is an issue we have no control over. Remember, in the final analysis, they can't do much to hurt us! They have to answer to local political representatives.
What happened in the board room should mean little to us "in the field" at this point.
But you wouldn't want to get into a cage match with the big woman who replaced Gloria Carvallo (temporarily, I hope, while she is on sick leave). :knuppel2:
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Blueback is scheduled for inspection in May. In addition to the NavSea annual SDIP, I saw a separate list of items that are on permanent loan, such as the ice cream machine, micro wave, union jack, and about 20 other items that they want pictures of to verify their condition and that they are still on the boat. What is this about?
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Dave:
That is something totally different. The curator of the Navy wants periodic reports on the condition of the stuff on long-term loan (think permanent, unless you go to scrap or give a middle-finger to the SecNav) to the boat. That is that stuff. Now on COD we have deck guns and china to report on. Fill out the paperwork send a picture of said item reporting it to be SAFE and in good shape, and you're off the hook for another few years.
Keep a list, so you can do this when you have time to kill next cycle.
Paul
Oh, and PAINT THE HULL NUMBERS in USN font, not Soviet!!! Augghhhhhh!!!! (love the Blueback, hate the hull number font) :smitten:
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Thanks Paul
Tom
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I have told the "Powers that be" at OMSI about comments concerning the Russian numbers. I think I have got their ears and it may just happen. What font are the Navy Numbers?
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shit if I know... block numbers. Look at the photos of the boat in service.. or any other boat in service :uglystupid2:
But let's give it a name and then we can charge a royalty for its use from the Pentagon... say we call it "Popeye Arabic Numerals" !!!
I think this should be worth about $3 million per year (only if we were defense contractors :'( :crazy2: )
If the numbers are corrected... then Blueback would be just about PERFECT!!! :-*
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We just finished our inspeciton. It did not seem to be anything out of the ordinary, We went through the usual walk thoughts. Losts of pictures were taken and we were told that we are doing a wonderful job. Our inspectior was even happy that he was happy to see the strong showing of support again. We discusseed the usuall list of chores and the hurdles that we are encountering in getting those chores done. They are changing the report style. as for the loan artifacts, That was very smoothe. I just sent a current picture of the item an filled out their report and all was good. I do know that a new Admiral has taken over the NHC and the name changed to for the usuall military convention (long and full of usless adj.).
Rick
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I should kick myself for not telling the BLUEBACK folks this:
your hull numbers are probably outlined in weld marks on the sail! Most boats have them. Also on the hull.
Hope that helps.
Paul
:-[
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I should have thought of that. Now that you mention it, on the PLUNGER I remember that the weld marks were there. Not used very often, but they were there if the need arose.
Thanks for the wake up. I will check it out the next time I am down there. With Spring break the next two weeks will be off days for the Monday work party. Won't have to turn too until the 1st Monday in April.
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We just had our inspection and it went great, they are using the new form and most of it doesn't apply to land docked vessels. We had the same inspector as last year and he immediately saw the results of our efforts and was really pleased. The inspection took 1 1/2 hours.
Tom
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:D Well done Tom! :D
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Updated today the original post to include a new schedule of what needs to be updated and how often.
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Got a guestion. Freedom Park where the Marlin is, seems to be a Navy Museum Site. does this means that I can find someone in the Navy to work with regarding items that could be used on the two ships. It would be nice if the Navy were willing to furnish things like dishes and blankets and even old paint they have lying around. Don't know who to write to about that. Maybe there is a division of the Navy that handles their Museum Parks.
Thanks,
Bill
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Start with the Nautilus guys - but someone is bound to have better answers. One other thing would be to contact your state Senator or Representative to seek help with getting contacts or aid from the Navy.
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Bill,
damned near everything that the Torsk Volunteer Association has gotten in the way of parts and paint has been bought with our own money, donated or stripped from the dead fleets in James River (Ft. Eustis) and Philly and yes we did have the Navy donate a set of mooring lines to me for the Torsk that is just about all that they have donated other then some of the active duty folks donating their time working on her with us(in the last 5 years that I have worked on her at least). The best way that I have found to get into contact with the Navy is just to call the local base and explain who you are and what you are trying to do in regards to the Marlin and the other ship there and see what they can do to help you and for paint call your local Lowes or home improvement stores or the local paint shops and see if they will donate the paint to the park or cut you a deal on the paint.
get in contact with your local newspaper and news shows and bring them up to date on what you and your group are trying to do for the Freedom park and get the word out that you are looking for help from the local community and surrounding areas for help and support for restoring these vessels so they can be able to bring money back into the local community.
And finally post a wish list here on this website and ask the crews if they have any extra of the parts that you need and maybe they will be able to donate/transfer pieces parts to you and the Marlin.
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Darin, thanks. I am in the process of getting in touch with the various commands around Omaha. I also have our DC who knows someone in Omaha that has a lot of contacts and we'll certainly be hitting up different stores for donations. I did post some information on the periscope to see if anyone knows where an eye piece can be found. Problem with parts is that they only made one other boat like it and that is gone. The size of the Marlin is such that very little of what is on it is used on any other submarine. The diving station is completely different than any I have seen. The torpedo and it's associated equipment are sized way down to the standard torpedos found on a boat. I do have someone furnishing a set of plans for it and that will help.
Thanks again,
Bill
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:D Bill the Diving Station is so different because :2funny: dare I say :2funny: They had Munchkins on board! LOL :2funny:
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The Drum was notified today that this years NavSea inspection will be in one and a half weeks, I guess they are trying sort of a surprise inspection, we are ready for them.
Tom
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Tom,
I would wish you all good luck but you and Leslie have done so much with your boat that you don't need any luck, you may have a problem getting them to leave the boat and not come back for another year or two ;) like that would be a bad thing having new volunteers right
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I don't know if we are getting the reserve unit we have had in the past or regular navy. We had heard they were going with regular. Last year the team that did the Drum went back to the target and told the rest of the crew to go to the boat and see what we had done and the boat was a mess because we in the middle of filming the movie and we hadn't done much outside yet. I am not too worried about it no matter which group comes. I will let every one know.
Tom
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We got Cmdr Barclay again this year. I have worked with him every year that I have been here. This has been a big help. We had 3 other new reservists. All went well I should have out hit list typed up later today.
Rick
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Still waiting... ;)
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I sent it out last week. Let me know if you still need it.
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We had our inspection Saturday and only had two inspect the boat, one, the chief was here last year and he was amazed at the work we had done. The Luetenant was on the target last year but after I showed him the picutures of the boat from before he too was amazed and he thought the motor room was clean even though it isn't. He said compared to the battleship the Drum was spotless. We didn't have any discrepenceys.
We finished painting officers country and will move outside this week and do repairs to the deck and then start on the port side. Finally a week with no rain forcast and temps in the sixties.
Tom
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We just had six Navy types headed by a LCDR come do the inspection of the Marlin. We are also working on the list of loaned items that has never been done since the city took over. I have been taking pictures of the over 200 items and putting them with each on the list. That goes to another navy group.
Our inspection went very well and the MM1 who was the lead guy and the LCDR were very impressed with how much got done and knocked off last year's list. No new items on this one that I know of. So The city is happy with the volunteers and the navy is happy that the ship and the park is looking better.
We have two big things to get done on the Marlin, but they aren't critical and the group who were inspecting agreed it was good to try and find some people to do them as donations and free help, instead of spending money. We will be lifting the ship to take out old wood under the keel and cradles and replacing that with some neoprene and also putting in a fire/smoke detecting/security system. All are in the works, just rounding up help to do them.
Not on their list, but they were interested, was our plan to get the scope out, fixed, and back in. We are hoping to have a contractor donate the crane (the parks architect has a lot of contractors he uses who owe him favors), have a Stratcom member working with the Nat. Guard to do the transport, and the guys who looked at the scope for us have it set up to have the Koll Morgan guy to supravise taking out and putting in, then he will also oversee the free fixing of the scope and giving us a new eyepiece. Hope to get this going this summer. We also have others in the community gathering support and finding the right people to talk to the guy at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard to see about gettting the Omaha Sail when we can raise the funds to have it put in the park. That is all in the future, but there is a Big Red club in Omaha that has funds and a lot of pull, so may be something that will happen.
This coming weekend the other jet and the Captain's Gig are getting painted. Up on the facebook Freedom Park page, I have pictures up of the other jet we just painted.
Things are moving along and have a good bunch of volunteers. Also put together over 90 pictures (under Smaller exhibits in the Park) to use as a walking tour of the park and also as part of what we ask school groups to look at ( also interior shots of both ships and albums of guns and bridge pictures) before they come out to tour the park. Each picture is titled with info. Then the school kids ask more questions about what they looked at as they are seeing them up close. Seems to make it more interesting for them that way.
http://www.facebook.com/FREEDOMPARK
Oh, RSVP took an article I wrote and put it in their newsletter and are sending out notes to their members to get us more volunteers. If any of you have not used RSVP yet, I would suggest you look into it as a good source of free help.
Thanks
Viejo
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I sympathize with you. I have an estimated 1500 or more items that I have to catalogue. I will trade you lists?????
Good luck and god speed
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Rick, I am glad we don't have near that many items. We do have a bunch of small items from the USS Omaha that I finally located. The 200 items were guns, propellers, anchors, etc on display in the park and some items on the Hazard, although the ship itself is not owned by the Navy. I am doing as you mentioned and taking pictures of each item as I find them, then reference their location on the list that has the name and number from the Navy. As we get more items cleaned and painted, then I put new pictures with the list. From looking at the various museums, ours is one of the smaller ones, in both land and possessions, but there is more to do that we have people for, that is for sure. But we are getting there and I am continually amazed at the spirit and attitude of our volunteers and of course those who work for the City and run the park have been nothing but helpful and thankful for what we do get done. I went up Sunday thinking I could get some time on the computer doing paper work and had people walking through the park with umbrellas wanting to see the ships. That is great that people are that interested and I am sure it is that way with each of our museums. We are lucky people to get to work in jobs like this.
Viejo
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Our motto here is "it looks better then it did" this sound a little counter porductive, but I have found noting is perfect and you just have to keep working at it.....
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Some times that is all you can do and anything done is better than doing nothing. Nothing has been done for too long. Great job you guys are doing, hang in there we appreciate the hard work and dedication.
Tom
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For you guys its not the money that matters its your love and passion for being a historian ina since and working on submarine musems to preaserve not just your submarine history but also the Silent Service of the Pacific reading yalls backgrounds and also reading alot of the old threads on here has taught me soo much about submarines and the volunteers who work on them its truly amazing and a great inspiration good job yall
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I spent much of Saturday morning starting on small items like napkin holders from the USS Omaha. I have about 9 boxes of small items at a warehouse to go take pictures of. For the larger items in the park, I am going to make a map of the park, then number each exhibit in the park and reference that to a file with the Navy numbers and our pictures of them. The Navy didn't detail what was inside the ship, but we have almost a hundred guns, anchors, propellers, missiles, and rocket launchers that I have been putting in albums on the Freedom Park Facebook page. Then as the scouts and others paint them, I swap out pictures. We now have a Cricket league that plays in the park and they want to help with the painting. That will help a lot. And the more you look, the more you learn, but the gap between knowledge and what is still to learn keeps getting bigger.
Viejo
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I know that the small groups can be an enormous endevor, However, you would be amazed how much you can get don out of a group of 20 or 30. I endorse using all ouf your youth groups, veterain, and cvic service groups. The help even if it is taking a power washer ad broom to clean out the super structure
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Talk to some of the churches too some of them might want to help as well
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Had our insection yesterday. The leiutenant was about 30 and the jg was about 29... nice kids, and the process seemed nothing different than years past.
One almost tripped over my shopvac cord (mee too!).... we don't kid about the Martha Stewart thingy... yep the boat gets vacuumed at least once a year! :coolsmiley: Sooooo damn sanitary! The dust bunnies have morphed into dust cattle!
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We finally just got our inspection report back (only took 5 months) and for the second year in a row they are nagging us about putting up (emergency) exit signs. Has anyone else been told to do this or do you already have exit signs up? This just seems weird to me. It's not like you can really get lost on the boat and there are exits everywhere. Just curious...
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Yes, we have some we just bought to put up and we also have to make an emergency exit off the aft escape hatch. Plus locking the openings to the empty battery compartments. They also want fire and smoke detectors going to an off ship source.
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Huh. We already have emergency lighting in every compartment and last year I added two glow-in-the dark exit signs plus the glow-in-the-dark tape to all ladders and handles. Not ot mention no one is allowed on board with out a staff member who are all equipped with flashlights and radios. It just seems overkill to add even more. Oh well...
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Karen:
is this a question of "HOW STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE, especially in an emergency?? the answer is, of course, VERRY STUPID!!! So since the health and safety inspectors want to cover their backsides, we pay for it in terms of signage, etc.
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time to bring this thread back to life once more and hopefully bring life back into this BBS that Lance has given us to help each other learn from their mistakes and win's, in a little over a week from now we all need to hoist a toast to Bill Lee (VEIJO) whom sadly passed away 12/10/2012.
What is the lastest update from each boat pertaining to their annual inspections?
Darrin