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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VWPHKABRQA

Though not exactly the same type of museum, I thought I would pass this along mostly because it is somewhat pertinent to the folks here.

My own personal experiences with the various museum boats I’ve visited are distinctly unique. I have had the pleasure of sitting with Nancy and Charles for a good part of the afternoon to the Bowfin a while back, and my son was in awe of Charles’ collection of items not on display. A crazy road trip to Manitowoc for a visit to the Cod brought me face to face with Karen as she hurriedly was on her way to work on a new exhibit, and the previous years’ trip to Muskegon for the sole purpose of hearing her engines rumble taught me the lovely rain-on-a-tin roof sound of the oil settling back into the sumps of Silversides’ engines after they were shut down. However, meeting Paul on the Cod brings to mind the point made in the video about the life which can be brought to a tour by the right person. While this isn’t meant to disparage the previous experiences and the wonderful people charged with the care and preservation of their respective boats, and since I have not had the pleasure of meeting folks like Tom and Leslie at the Drum or Rich at the Pampanito (though I have been to both), Paul stands out in relation to the video because of the interest he effortlessly generates with his audience though his take on “guides, games, and gossip”.

“…Storytelling is more important than art history. Today’s audiences have to be entertained before they can be educated.”

Sadly, this is true for naval history as well. I learned that lesson from the “it’s on the way” tour of the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton with my lovely and talented wife. As you may remember, she is a Russian pianist with an interest in military history which could only be best described as “polite through proximity”. By the time she reached hour number three, her mood was reaching critical mass and the subsequent trip to the Silversides was in jeopardy of being boycotted or filled with ominous silence. However, the bits of history my son and I shared with her as we walked through the sub were tales of the courage and hardships the men on board over seventy years prior were what made it, in her words, “impressive, humbling, and fascinating.”

While Nick Gray makes several interesting points about “gallery fatigue” and other side effects the general public might experience at these more “static” museums, the approach he advocates with the rapid approach to the displays is something I consider somewhat debatable for the boats on display. Location, for some museum boats, separates the “visitors of convenience” from the “visitors for purpose” a lot better than others… after all, while I would love to visit the Batfish or the Ling, I can count on a very long and deliberate trip… more than likely sans spouse. However, even in the cases of the “ideally located” boats with a symbiotic relationship with other points of interest in the area, the question could be asked “how many people in the area haven’t been to see our boat?” and “why not?”…

Perhaps another way of looking at the relation is that your boats are a form of art, and the emotions, ideas, and purpose of these behemoth consumers of time, resources, and effort is essentially another form of art in purpose, function, and action.
That went way too long, but I was sort of inspired. Hopefully, you made it to the end and managed to watch the video…

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Museum Submarine Discussion / ...?
« on: May 07, 2015, 11:01:17 PM »
Am I the only one still checking this site and squinting at the lack of activity here?


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Museum Submarine Discussion / Bravery
« on: December 30, 2014, 08:25:51 AM »
It's been quiet here, so I thought I'd go fishing for discussion...

In your reading (yes, you - the person reading this), what is the the best example of insane bravery shown by a crew during the war?

For me, it is split between the Tang sliding in less than 800 yards behind a destroyer during a night surface attack or the Parche salvoing off nineteen torpedoes in 46 minutes...

(Composed on my phone, so I am limited in my patience with this touchscreen in composing a longer post... but the idea can't wait :))

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School of the Boat / Too Much Coffee
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:58:28 AM »
A couple of questions have come to mind upon my latest re-reading of “Clear the Bridge” by Richard O’Kane, and I thought I’d pose them to the group:

1.   “80/90. 80 percent load, 90 percent speed” (p.63) While I’m somewhat sure that this has something to do with the charging of the batteries, but I haven’t found specifics…

2.    “One bell landing” (p.353) I assume this means backing slow to kill any headway. In the context, it suggests mooring with the minimal amount of commands…

3.   “Port ahead two-thirds, starboard back two-thirds” (p.421) This would seem simple enough, and I completely see the intent to pivot the bow to starboard much like turning a tracked vehicle. The question is: how tight of a pivot is possible? Given the location of the screws, it would seem that turning 180 degrees inside of a ship’s length would be improbable. Sure, it would be better than relying on rudder alone, but seeing how the pivot point is so far aft, on a no-wind, no current day, the radius of turning would still be fairly large.

4.   One/two/three engine speed. I have yet to find any reference to exactly how many knots this was. Perhaps it is another way of saying “ahead one-third/two-thirds/full”?

Maybe I am over-thinking this a bit much, but I can easily foresee a time when I get asked that by the boy, so I figure I might head it off now and ask the resident subject matter experts. That, and it would clarify things a bit more to a non-submariner a bit…  :)

Mike

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Museum Submarine Discussion / "Submitted for Your Approval..."
« on: October 23, 2014, 08:25:55 PM »
I've recently started taking college classes online with the aspirations of gaining more academic credibility before I hang up the Uniform for the last time. While this is a development very late in coming, I am positive that my educational goals are not "just for the diploma/degree/certification", but more of a refining process for the talents I already have and developmental restructuring for the areas I need to improve. The end goal is a Bachelor's in Military History with a concentration in American Military History... with what hopefully will be a generous dose of Human Resources Management certifications heaped in there somewhere. As I have said here on this forum before, it is the guidance and suggestions given here which has initiated this course, and I thank you all for the constructive words and perspectives you have shared.

Now comes more chances to be constructive...

One of the best influences in my life was my 12th grade Creative Writing teacher, and the advice he gave to me then still resonates in my head: "Mike, write what you know." At 18, I didn't know a lot, but I knew when to shut up and remember wise words. Years later, I am doing exactly that - writing what I know... or more precisely, what I think I know. This topic will be submissions of essays I have written for various classes, and they are up for dissection. While they are posted here after being turned in (I have this strange dread of plagiarism - even if they are my own words), I still would like to get feedback from subject matter experts in order to refine my ideas and clarify potential errors I have made.  Not only that, but this forum has gotten real quiet, and it is a shame to have such a wealth of information sitting dormant.

I don't foresee any immediate academic reason for referencing/using any information shared here, but if there is, I will address it accordingly with the involved contributors and give appropriate citations. Along with that, I have thick skin and only want to give only the best "high-quality ingredients", so please don't beat around the bush - if I'm wrong, let me know (which, with this crowd, will NOT be a problem :) )

Mike

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Website Updates and Off-Topic Discussion / Where Did Everyone Go?
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:55:23 PM »
Did I miss the signal to go deep and rig for silent running?
Myself, I got sucked into the "Great Academic Abyss" and am really starting to develop very specific opinions of the academic world - both good and bad.
It wasn't just that, though... in following the news and doing my own research, I think I might have needed some quiet time to process.

Everyone else, though?

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Museum Submarine Discussion / Funniest Things / Best Moments
« on: August 20, 2014, 11:52:15 PM »
A while ago, I asked a pretty serious question and received a lot of responses. All were supportive, informative, and indicative of the passion everyone reading this has for this subject area. For that, I thank all of the contributors...

Now, I ask another question - mostly because I/we could use a laugh or a smile:

In the museum boats out there, what sticks out as some of the funniest or best moments?

Having worked in a tourist-driven economy, I know that there are TONS of stories that are of the "they-forgot-to-pack-their-brain" caliber that are better left for laughter and a shared drink, but I have faith that the folks reading this are fairly wise in what is and isn't... appropriate... here.

(If this is a rehash of a different thread, point me in the right direction and I shall adjust accordingly... but for the moment, something to bring a smile is needed)

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Submarine Related Chatter / Video
« on: July 21, 2014, 12:36:11 PM »
I thought I'd share (just in case they were missed):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PmcgfMgHUs

Apparently, someone found these lovely shorts. Judging by the amount of views, they're not really popular (as opposed to the general silliness found on YouTube), and the one on the Silversides was... meh... in the accuracy (as far as I know)... but still... Pretty cool.

Any other good things to be found like this?

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Museum Submarine Discussion / Introductory Questions for Museum Staff
« on: July 16, 2014, 12:26:17 AM »
It's past my bedtime, and I'm reading Seth Weiner's dissertation - "Save Our Ships: The Viability of Naval Vessels as Museum Exhibitions" - when I come across the following passage on page 26:
"Currently, no member of the Board of Trustees of the SMA I New Jersey Naval Museum is a trained museum professional, nor does any member have specialized knowledge of, or training in, 501c3 regulations or museum ethics."
http://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2835&context=dissertations

Now, I am more likely going to have a LOT more questions later, but this intrigues me.
What exactly are the qualifications that most Board members have on the ships currently around? Curators? Directors?

Perhaps, the implied question I have is more along the lines of "what would I need to have to fill one of these positions?", as the end of my time wearing the Uniform is getting shorter and shorter and my question of "what next?" is a personal answer of "what is my passion - what is my interest?".
Is it an intangibly pertinent degree in something loosely associated with History? Or would it be the laser-beam focus of a degree in Museum studies? Both seem like they would be more helpful than nothing at all. Might it be merely a "drive" as one answer was recently returned?

The responses, I think, should be enlightening and will always be appreciated... :)


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Aloha all,
I've been silently reading through a LOT of posts here and I am sort of speechless at the dedication, devotion, and passion that a lot of folks here have for subs. Ok, speechless at some posts... angry at others (bureaucracy NEVER ends well), but nevertheless my reactions has been pretty much "...wow!" at just about everything. Having said that - thank you all for helping me realize that it's not just me that sees the beauty of these boats and the care you have all shown.

A bit about me: I have never been on a sub underway. Ok, there was that one time with the touristy thing off of Waikiki, but I was sure I was going to die the whole time simply because of my suspicion of the integrity of the crew - ("Did they secure that hatch properly?"), the hull ("Tensile strength...of...is this thing made out of a soda can?"), or the navigational abilities of the guy at the helm ("Ok...I know the YO is out here somewhere... but where?"). By the end of the dive, I was pretty much convinced that I would have been considerably happier diving the route and mooning the passengers... but I digress.
I really wish I could share the moment I first set foot on the Bowfin - but the fact of the matter is that the first visit has sort of blended in with the hundreds since. I also hoped that I could share lamentations of the trials and tribulations of a volunteer helping preserve her for future generations, but that wasn't possible due to the OPTEMPO of our unit in between rotations to Afghanistan and Iraq (twice, but I won't get on THAT tangent either, given the current events there...plus, Politician-Induced-Tourette's is hardly the best first impression to make...)

Continuing on about myself: I've been in the Army for a little over 18 years - most of it spent on helicopters doing all sorts of stuff that I am paying for physically, now. I've adopted Edward Ellsberg as my professional hero, I discovered the most wonderful Scotch - Scapa - due to my fascination with Earnest Cox, and recently planned and executed a trip from West-Central GA to Muskegon primarily just for the engine run last month on the Silversides (I never did get to see where the box of Cream O' Wheat got to, though).
I love to write, I tend to wax poetically about the failures of leadership, and I generally have a handy soap box to perch upon. I do, however, listen very well and enjoy exploring the perspectives of others.
One of my realistic short-term goals is to NOT turn down the offer to "start her up" the next time I am in the forward engine room...
A semi-realistic goal is to draft a paper on what the US Navy taught as a foundation to all sub skippers and what set the stellar ones like Morton, O'Kane, and Burlingame apart from the others given this common foundation...
A semi-unrealistic goal is to be a part of the group to find the Tang. Seriously. I have internal organs willing to be donated to be part of that... would even consider an external one or two.

Well, that's me...

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