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Submarine Related Chatter / Re: New Record?
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Museum Submarine Discussion / Re: Bubble Clinometers
« on: December 21, 2011, 04:30:36 PM »
It's always going to be a delicate balance between accessability and opportunity, and there will always be some who seek to exploit opportunities for "personal enrichment" in ways we don't intend.
I'd give almost anything to see onboard interpretation people moving through Torsk, educating visitors while subtly discouraging the kind of miscreantism that has occurred on all of these boats at one time in the past. Sadly, that's always a matter of finances, and museums are about the lowest on most folks' lists of non-profits to support. And while there may be lots of folks who do care for and respect these vessels, there are likely many, many more who could give a damn about smelly old smoke boats. It's the casual disinteresteds that worry me - the one that wander through with nothing better to do who see a shiny and decide to help themselves, since they already feel they're getting nothing of value from the experience as it is.
We're just not going to be able to stop the professionals for very long; the best we can hope for is enough deterrance to slow them down to the point that they feel the risk of being observed is too great. But the casual opportunists who don't know better, or the "I-know-just-enough-to-get-in-trouble" folks - those are the ones who we have to really take care for.
I look at how much work Torsk has had done, and how much further we want to go, and I wonder, in moments of frustraton, how much further we'd be, were it not for those members of the public who missed the ethics lessons. It's a battle we don't have to lose, but it's one that may take a few more dollars than many are either willing to give, or can even afford.
I'd give almost anything to see onboard interpretation people moving through Torsk, educating visitors while subtly discouraging the kind of miscreantism that has occurred on all of these boats at one time in the past. Sadly, that's always a matter of finances, and museums are about the lowest on most folks' lists of non-profits to support. And while there may be lots of folks who do care for and respect these vessels, there are likely many, many more who could give a damn about smelly old smoke boats. It's the casual disinteresteds that worry me - the one that wander through with nothing better to do who see a shiny and decide to help themselves, since they already feel they're getting nothing of value from the experience as it is.
We're just not going to be able to stop the professionals for very long; the best we can hope for is enough deterrance to slow them down to the point that they feel the risk of being observed is too great. But the casual opportunists who don't know better, or the "I-know-just-enough-to-get-in-trouble" folks - those are the ones who we have to really take care for.
I look at how much work Torsk has had done, and how much further we want to go, and I wonder, in moments of frustraton, how much further we'd be, were it not for those members of the public who missed the ethics lessons. It's a battle we don't have to lose, but it's one that may take a few more dollars than many are either willing to give, or can even afford.
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Website Updates and Off-Topic Discussion / Re: ...navy requirements
« on: August 10, 2011, 09:03:35 AM »
Tough to say; my experience is with the Army, and that was twenty years ago.
I don't know if enlistment waivers are still authorized or not; I would recommend a complete physical by your family doc, for starters, and speak to your recruiter about your concerns. Just remember that until you sign the papers, the recruiter will, in some ways, "work for you" if you're a good prospect. Use that to your advantage.
How's your weight, physical fitness levels? Those are of importance as well. Grades in school OK? The trick to getting in right now is to make yourself as attractive as possible to the service - good grades, no disciplinary/legal problems, good physical fitness, the ability to learn.
Good luck!
I don't know if enlistment waivers are still authorized or not; I would recommend a complete physical by your family doc, for starters, and speak to your recruiter about your concerns. Just remember that until you sign the papers, the recruiter will, in some ways, "work for you" if you're a good prospect. Use that to your advantage.
How's your weight, physical fitness levels? Those are of importance as well. Grades in school OK? The trick to getting in right now is to make yourself as attractive as possible to the service - good grades, no disciplinary/legal problems, good physical fitness, the ability to learn.
Good luck!
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USS Drum (SS-228) / Re: Drum progress
« on: August 09, 2011, 08:30:40 AM »
Took the words right outta my mouth, Darrin - amazing work, by an amazing crew of two. You two are an absolute inspiration.
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Museum Submarine Discussion / Re: Bubble Clinometers
« on: August 02, 2011, 01:12:46 PM »
Does make a fella wonder, doesn't it, Mark? Some days, I wonder just who we're preserving the boats for; then I get one person who's genuinely interested and who seems to care, and I'm all better. 
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Museum Submarine Discussion / Re: Bubble Clinometers
« on: August 02, 2011, 07:33:13 AM »
Congrats, Rich - sounds like you all are really ratcheting up the bar a lot of museum boats would like to reach. Thanks for being one of "those" boats!
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Museum Submarine Discussion / Re: Tank Level Gauges
« on: July 29, 2011, 07:36:15 AM »
The only thing I can figure so far is that they might be weight/displacement gauges, since you'd have to have some way (esp. with the trim tanks) to adjust them for trim compensation, right? You'd have to have some way of measuring the weight of what's in there... I'm guessing here, but I've got nothing better at the moment.
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Website Updates and Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Updates to Through The Looking Glass change
« on: July 28, 2011, 07:38:47 AM »
Good thinking, Ric, and certainly less manpower intensive than going to all interested sites to post updates. RSS feed added!
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Museum Submarine Discussion / Re: Tank Level Gauges
« on: July 28, 2011, 07:35:07 AM »
Chief - are we talking liquid levels in the tanks? Similar to fuel gauges?
I can't imagine they're direct-connect floating ball gauges - maybe pressure in the tanks reflects in the gauge reading?
I can't imagine they're direct-connect floating ball gauges - maybe pressure in the tanks reflects in the gauge reading?
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School of the Boat / Re: School of the Boat 1 Nov 10 (valve line up DIESEL's)
« on: July 27, 2011, 07:39:38 AM »
Appreciate that, Darrin, truly.
I think I'm going to go ahead and spring for the ~$20 to purchase a reprint of NAVPERS 16160 to get at least the basics in hand; I'd rather do that and not worry about marking up my own copy. Right now, I know that I'm more comptent than the average NQ, but no where near where I want to be short of re-enlisting. So, if absorbing all that I can from experienced hands is the best I can hope for, then it's the very least I can do.
I think I'm going to go ahead and spring for the ~$20 to purchase a reprint of NAVPERS 16160 to get at least the basics in hand; I'd rather do that and not worry about marking up my own copy. Right now, I know that I'm more comptent than the average NQ, but no where near where I want to be short of re-enlisting. So, if absorbing all that I can from experienced hands is the best I can hope for, then it's the very least I can do.
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Website Updates and Off-Topic Discussion / Re: AND,.. once more with an update.... Simon Lake boat...
« on: July 26, 2011, 08:15:46 AM »
Definitely looks like a publicity still, doesn't it?
It's remarkable, sometimes, when I think of what we are losing to digital cameras today. No one prints photos, and we all know that electronic files can be easily lost. Here on WLV-116, we have an exhibit of photos of mascot dogs of the Navy and Coast Guard from as far back as Olympia (C-6). None of that exhibit would have been possible were it not for having access to printed photos, or copies thereof. So much of history being made today risks being forever lost to memory alone while the pictures exist only digitally - I hope that more people with print to preserve their photos, not only for history's sake, but for their future generations' sakes, too.
Thanks for all the hard work, Ric, preserving these photos online for others to see, share, and maybe print, to preserve these visual records.
It's remarkable, sometimes, when I think of what we are losing to digital cameras today. No one prints photos, and we all know that electronic files can be easily lost. Here on WLV-116, we have an exhibit of photos of mascot dogs of the Navy and Coast Guard from as far back as Olympia (C-6). None of that exhibit would have been possible were it not for having access to printed photos, or copies thereof. So much of history being made today risks being forever lost to memory alone while the pictures exist only digitally - I hope that more people with print to preserve their photos, not only for history's sake, but for their future generations' sakes, too.
Thanks for all the hard work, Ric, preserving these photos online for others to see, share, and maybe print, to preserve these visual records.
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School of the Boat / Re: School of the Boat 1 Nov 10 (valve line up DIESEL's)
« on: July 26, 2011, 08:09:28 AM »
Darrin -
I appreciate all the work you guys've done to make this info available on ths site, and all of the work the guys have done on Torsk. As the token Army representative, and subsequently, NQP, I know I have a lot to learn, so I'm soaking it up wherever I can. This School of the Boat is helping tremendously.
I'll bend Gil's ear next time I see him - I think that at some point in the near future, I'm just going to have to sit down there in FBLL and absorb everything I can.
Diesel project is going well, but what Torsk really needs is a dyed-in-the-wool engine man. There's enough EMs to put BGE to shame, but no engine man. Chief's striking for ENC, I think; at least, he looked that way on Saturday!
I've a feeling I'll be a busy man, if that engine start-up ever happens, but I hope to be here for it. Mike's not comfortable starting anything without a dedicated EN in there to make sure that everything's correct, and I can't say that I blame him, if it's really been 40 years since the last time that engine was running.
Lots of other projects needing attention, too, and not a lot of crew to go around, but you knew that.
I appreciate all the work you guys've done to make this info available on ths site, and all of the work the guys have done on Torsk. As the token Army representative, and subsequently, NQP, I know I have a lot to learn, so I'm soaking it up wherever I can. This School of the Boat is helping tremendously.
I'll bend Gil's ear next time I see him - I think that at some point in the near future, I'm just going to have to sit down there in FBLL and absorb everything I can.
Diesel project is going well, but what Torsk really needs is a dyed-in-the-wool engine man. There's enough EMs to put BGE to shame, but no engine man. Chief's striking for ENC, I think; at least, he looked that way on Saturday!
I've a feeling I'll be a busy man, if that engine start-up ever happens, but I hope to be here for it. Mike's not comfortable starting anything without a dedicated EN in there to make sure that everything's correct, and I can't say that I blame him, if it's really been 40 years since the last time that engine was running.
Lots of other projects needing attention, too, and not a lot of crew to go around, but you knew that.
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Website Updates and Off-Topic Discussion / Re: AND,.. once more with an update.... Simon Lake boat...
« on: July 21, 2011, 12:18:03 PM »
It's the attire of the guys on the bench that gets me. I just can't imagine working a sub dressed like that, even if it were the "fashion of the day" so to speak.
It just goes to show that courage and bravery are independent of attire.
It just goes to show that courage and bravery are independent of attire.
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School of the Boat / Re: School of the Boat 1 Nov 10 (valve line up DIESEL's)
« on: July 21, 2011, 09:25:23 AM »
Darrin,
Been awhile seen I've had a chance to shake your hand - I think the last time we spoke face-to-face, we were dealing withan injured elderly lady and the EMTs.
Chief Mike's spent enough time in his poopysuit that I'm thinking maybe he's gonna re-up, but the FW system's making progress. Might just get that FM ready to roar agan after all - wouldn't that frost the neighbor's cookies!
Been awhile seen I've had a chance to shake your hand - I think the last time we spoke face-to-face, we were dealing withan injured elderly lady and the EMTs.
Chief Mike's spent enough time in his poopysuit that I'm thinking maybe he's gonna re-up, but the FW system's making progress. Might just get that FM ready to roar agan after all - wouldn't that frost the neighbor's cookies!
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Website Updates and Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What browser are you using? (IMPORTANT POLL)
« on: July 20, 2011, 01:42:53 PM »
Safari on my iPhone. Chrome at home. Firefox started become Freezingfox, and Internet Exploder has never been reliably consistent on my home system.
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