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Individual Submarine Boards => USS Batfish (SS-310) => Topic started by: Shipwreck on September 30, 2008, 01:16:41 AM
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I really need some deck plans for the Batfish or as close to the batfish as possible. I need them 'looking down' and not side profiles. This is for the proposal and some particular needs that deck plans will allow to be better understood. Any ideas on where I might find some?
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I really need some deck plans for the Batfish or as close to the batfish as possible.
Here are some examples from a book I have. Three different pages. I can print them out and bring them to the museum this Saturday.
They are copyrighted illustrations, so I can also include the copyright info with them.
Let me know what you want.
Mark A.
PS. Also meant to let you know that I can provide better quality scans and email them too.
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IF you want the actual Navy blue prints and you would like to buy them the are at www.floatingdrydock.com While they don't have the Batfish's plans they do have a lot of plans for just about everything that you would need and then some ;)
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Rick has a lot of prints, too. Ask to see what he has before you go hunting elsewhere.
Also, I sent him plans that show where the 5" deck gun was mounted on certain subs on the aft deck.
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I actually need INTERNAL deck plans if possible. Mark I do appreciate the external ones though, as they will help in the exterior renovations and needs.
B
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OK...let me see what else I can turn up. Not sure what I have...but it will be tomorrow before I can take a look.
Mark
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Well, I went ahead and took a look.
I do have a deck plan (interior), but it's from a GATO class.
If that is OK, I can scan it and post it here. It will be two sheets as it's about 17 inches long.
Let me know and I can have it for you in the morning.
Mark
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I am pretty sure that the National Archives at College Park, MD has the original ink drawings of BATFISH (what they made the blueprints from) or a very close BALAO sister... showing every deck fitting, cleat, salvage air connection, etc. The drawings above are very general in comparison!
Paul
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As long as it is the basic 'floor plan' of the boat, I appreciate it. One of the things I need it for is to get estimates for and propose a mini-dome security camera system throughout the boat - along with an alarm/security system. Now who else do you know that has a key fob alarm for a sub! Bloop Bloop.
Just kidding... Seriously though, as more and more folks go through the boat we need to protect our investment as much as possible. Cameras would also help in the event of an injury, emergency, etc. On a security note, I still crack up when I think of how someone stole all the cigars Correy left in the LOCKED captain's stateroom but left the cigar box. Just a note too - for those who might be cringing at the thought of modern day technology on the boat - these camareas would be small and barely noticeable. They would be a great replacement for the few on the boat now. I am also looking for the best places that fir extinquishers can be placed. Let's face it, no one will give a second thought to them, but I want to place them in strategic places, but not necessarily places where they might get caught in everyone's vacation photos.
Anyhoot, any help would be apreciated.
OH - one more thing - I want to get a live web cam at the musem that will allow folks who visit our website the chance to watch the Batfish restoration LIVE. It would also drive more folks to the site and of course, increased traffic means increased support. Later I think it would be cool to make a couple of the interior cameras web cams during certain hours and I would LOVE to mount something on the exterior of the boat herself - something that can be remotely operated and rotated by guests to view the park, river front, etc. I love the one you can do this with in London near the HMS Belfast. Thoughts??
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Here's an example of why we need a fire supression system and plan. We don't have seciurity of course, but security camears would help during daytime hours at least. Anyway here is the article about the Cutty Sark fire:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/09/30/cutty.sark.fire/index.html
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...OH - one more thing - I want to get a live web cam at the musem that will allow folks who visit our website the chance to watch the Batfish restoration LIVE. It would also drive more folks to the site and of course, increased traffic means increased support. Later I think it would be cool to make a couple of the interior cameras web cams during certain hours and I would LOVE to mount something on the exterior of the boat herself - something that can be remotely operated and rotated by guests to view the park, river front, etc. I love the one you can do this with in London near the HMS Belfast. Thoughts??
Excellent idea on that. The USS Cavalla has some cams like this set up on their website. The only downside I can think of this is a) HUGE bandwidth sucking each month, likely to increase website costs dramatically and b) good broadband internet connection required at the sub.
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broadband internet connection required at the sub.
:D yeah, right.
Bradley, below are the deck plans I was referring to. Hopefully they are what you are needing or at least will help you out. Just remember, these are from a GATO class and not a BALAO.
Mark
Source: The Fleet Submarine in the U.S. Navy by John D. Alden.
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Bradley,
Most, if not all, fire extinguisher mounts are still present and accounted for on the boat. I would just put the right size bottles in each holder so that they lock down properly. There's even one up in the CT.
Mark S.
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:D yeah, right.
Bradley, below are the deck plans I was referring to. Hopefully they are what you are needing or at least will help you out. Just remember, these are from a GATO class and not a BALAO.
Mark
Source: The Fleet Submarine in the U.S. Navy by John D. Alden.
Yeah, these will work for what I need. I'd love to find some for the Batfish, but if not, then our long term planning could involve drafts made up - although that would be a ton of work. I'll go the route of the Navy as suggested earlier.
THANKS!
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Just a quick follow-up...
Talked with the National Archives and am seeking info about hiring a researcher to obtain copies based on the response below:
We have general plans for the USS Batfish (SS-310) located among the
Records of the Bureau of Ships, Record Group 19. These drawings include
a " Booklet of General Plans",corrected through 1955, a docking plan
and systems drawings in the form of a "General Information Booklet".
Other Balao class submarines are on microfilm, circa 1943.
Pretty cool. Also learned that there may be some great photos not currently known by our Memorial of the Batfish. Sure wish we had someone we knew from that area who could look them up for us. Anyhoot, just thought you might appreciate the update.
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The docking plan would be interesting if it's what I think it is. We were talking about getting running water and a sewage tank installed, since we're getting the galley to quasi-operational status, again. Knowing where to hook up fresh water as if in port would help.
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Also learned that there may be some great photos not currently known by our Memorial of the Batfish. Sure wish we had someone we knew from that area who could look them up for us. Anyhoot, just thought you might appreciate the update.
I have a DVD full of archive photos...some Batfish, some not. I think Rick has a copy. My friend Shawn Younger, who now works in the D.C. area got them for me.
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The nat'l archives in DC? I may or may not know someone up there in that area who maybe interested in helping you out :coolsmiley:
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Darrin just volunteered. :)
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Gonna talk to a friend of mine and see if HE will pull those for you the next time he is in DC, he lives around that area and does spend sometime in there for research. Will send him the information that you need and hope that he will pull it for you if not I will ask another Vol that I know in that area and see if SHE will pull it for you
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Awesome!! Lord knows we could use the original plans and the upgrades.
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I talked with my buddy and he is more then happy to help you out on this one and he asked me to send his contact information over to you all on Batfish so he can talk directly to you guys so that there are no miscommunications between all of us and aparently there is going to be a cost to getting the information that you need (no he isn't asking for money for him it is for the historical center to get the copies made)
So with that being said who do I send his email addy to on this one???
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thanks! just pop it over to me at bradley@scriptfolio.net
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Will do, heck I invited him to this bbs tonight so he may show up for the fun of it.
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Bradley check your PM ;)
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hey Darrin,
Is your guy in Washington still going to help us acquire copies of the original plans I sent you the info on? These will be extremely helpful as they are the original builders plans with the 1950's changes/upgrades.
Just drop me an emial if you have questions.
B
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Bradley, give Jim a call and see when he is able to get there.. I think you have his number if not email me and I will track it down and call him and put a boot in his behind and get him motivated.
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if yo can pass along his info to me again? bradley@scriptfolio.net
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Bradley,
Here is some contact information at D.C. that you may find interesting and yes I will send you his email addy here in a minute
"301-837-3510 - that's the number for military records.. the BATFISH people can call there and if they get to someone (they tend to be busy there) they can ask what they have.
Like I said earlier, the engineering drawings and plans are on the 4th floor of the Archives at College Park. They do have an online search for microfilm but the info isn't too extensive. So the fact that BATFISH found out the info is in Record Group 19 is helpful."
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Here's his email addy ssr481@verizon.net
Jim is a good guy who works with the Requin from time to time and also volunteers with the SS John Brown (Liberty Ship), he also has written a couple of books about submarines and is currently working on a book about the USS Catfish that was sank during the Falklands war
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Jim is a good guy who works with the Requin from time to time and also volunteers with the SS John Brown (Liberty Ship), he also has written a couple of books about submarines and is currently working on a book about the USS Catfish that was sank during the Falklands war
Jim is also a member here, he just hasn't checked back in for a while.
http://www.submarinemuseums.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=43
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Thanks Lance,
I forgot that he is a member here, he has been busy with work and with his family life lately, that and writing another book so I can see where he hasn't had much time to check the bbs
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Thanks!
BTW I have a director friend - the one who shot THE LAST DIVE aboard the Batfish who also did a doc on the John Brown. If any of you would want copies, he may have them available.
B