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General Boards => Museum Submarine Discussion => Topic started by: Lance Dean on April 10, 2008, 11:37:41 PM
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I'd like to start up an ongoing thread about books on our submarine museum boats.
I know many of them have books written completely about their history or specific missions. Please list any you know, complete with title, author, and any other information you have.
Some help for you:
Ron Martini's Submarine Book Store
http://www.rontini.com/bookstor.html
Torpedo Junction Submarine and U-Boat Books
http://www.sonic.net/~books/
SubmarineBooks.com
http://www.submarinebooks.com/
Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/
eBay.com
http://www.ebay.com/
There ya go! Now get to posting about your favorite book(s) written in honor of any of the submarine museum boats!
The list so far:
Cod
24 Torpedoes and 13 Buttons + Other Stories
by Howard B. Dishong
http://www.amazon.com/24-torpedoes-Buttons-Other-Stories/dp/B000K0CJZ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211990638&sr=1-1
USS Cod WWII Submarine Memorial Photo Museum Guide
by Randall S. Shoker
http://www.amazon.com/Submarine-Memorial-Photo-Museum-Guide/dp/1930127014/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207917697&sr=1-1
USS Cod (SS-224): American Submarine War Patrol Reports
by J. T. McDaniel
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1932606041/ronmartinisnavysA/
Drum
The Three Lives of the USS Drum
by Thomas Bowser
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Lives-USS-Drum/dp/098938330X/
Silversides
Silversides
by Robert Trumbull
http://www.sonic.net/~books/
USS Silversides SS236: An illustrated record of Silversides War Patrol Period, December 1941 - August 1945
by Marc Okkonen
http://www.amazon.com/USS-Silversides-SS236-illustrated-December/dp/0966548795/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207920016&sr=1-26
The War Below: The Story of Three Submarines That Battled Japan
by James Scott
http://www.amazon.com/The-War-Below-Submarines-Battled/dp/1439176833/
This book features USS Silversides as well as USS Drum and USS Tang
Cobia
The Blind Fight
by C.M. Stewart
http://www.rontini.com/bookstor.html
Bowfin
The Pearl Harbor Avenger - USS Bowfin
by Dr. Robert Beynon
http://www.sonic.net/~books/
Batfish
Leader Of The Pack: The Fleet Submarine USS Batfish In World War II
by Mark W. Allen
http://www.amazon.com/Leader-Of-The-Pack-Submarine/dp/1450298915/
Batfish, the Champion "Submarine-Killer" Submarine of World War II
by Hughston E. Lowder and Jack Scott
http://www.amazon.com/Batfish-Champion-submarine-killer-Submarine-World/dp/0130665630/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207917325&sr=1-1
In the Course of Duty: The Heroic Mission of the USS Batfish
by Don Keith
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0451216598/ronmartinisnavysA/
Pampanito
USS Pampanito: Killer-Angel
by Gregory F. Michno
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0806132051/ronmartinisnavysA/
Steel Shark in the Pacific : USS Pampanito SS-383
by Walter W. Jaffee
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1889901164/ronmartinisnavysA/
USS Pampanito: A Submarine and Her Crew
by Carl Nolte
http://www.amazon.com/USS-Pampanito-Submarine-Her-Crew/dp/0971455007/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207918457&sr=1-3
Requin
Rebirth of a Submarine: A history of the USS Requin (SS-481/SSR-481)
by James L. Mandelblatt
http://www.rontini.com/bookstor.html
http://www.geocities.com/uss_requin/book.htm
Albacore
USS Albacore: Forerunner of the Future
by Robert P. Largess and James L. Mandelblatt
http://www.rontini.com/bookstor.html
Nautilus
The Ice Diaries: The True Story of One of Mankind's Greatest Adventures
by Commander William R. Anderson and Don Keith
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0785227598/ronmartinisnavysA/
Nautilus 90 North
by Commander William R. Anderson and Clay Blair
http://www.amazon.com/NAUTILUS-NORTH-COMMANDER-WILLIAM-ANDERSON/dp/B000K0C63O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207919105&sr=1-1
Nautilus SSN 571
by William McNally
http://www.rontini.com/bookstor.html
Blueback
Blueback
by Scott C. S. Stone
http://www.amazon.com/Blueback-Scott-C-S-Stone/dp/1578641047/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211990986&sr=1-2
and I believe that this book covers just about every submarine museum
Final Patrol: True Stories of World War II Submarines
by Don Keith
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Patrol-Stories-World-Submarines/dp/0451219511/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207919286&sr=1-1
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We have 2 the first si Americas Sub killer by Lowder. This wss written by one of the crew members form the boat. The second is In the Course of Duty by Don Keiths. Both are good reads..
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I call this my "Manitowoc Bible". Why? First it was written by a Manitowoc Submarine Commander, secondly it covers the entire Manitowoc story in a single book from the beginnings of the shipyards, details of the consruction of the 28 submarines, transporting them from the Great Lakes to the Gulf, and their war records. I found that it had more "little known facts than I dreamed possible. For instance the first sub Peto had the cylinder liners and rod bearings on all four diesel engines replaced while enroute downstream. I never knew how many time the Peto and other subs were ran aground in the river. I never knew that all 28 subs were towed by the same Tug Boat the "Minnesota" and she was built in 1921 and almost sank on the first trip. I didn't know the tug pilots operated from memory, without any maps of the rivers. I never knew the floating drydock was beached on her first return trip ,and the bow modified by plates and other parts prefabricated at Manitowoc, and shipped by rail to a downstream location. I never knew the pieriscope and other structure parts that were removed for bridge clearances were hastily reinstalled before reaching New Orleans because of the German propaganda claim that one of their subs was successful going up the Miissisippi River for some distance and the peto had tobe prepared to fight if needed. I never knew that the subs discovered by accident the fact that radios continued to receive while submerged in Lake Michigan because of the fresh not salt water. Well that's only a few things in the book. Because it is so well written both submariners as well as others can understand the text. Also several nice photographs are included. Rontini lists the book, and it is offered by phone from the Wisconsin Maritime Museum gift shop (920) 684 0218
K0EFV
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DON KEITH HAS A BOOK COMING OUT SOON CALLED THE ICE DIARIES.IT DEALS WITH THE USS NAUTILUS SSN571.WILLIAM ANDERSON NAUTILUS SKIPPER WORKED ON IT WITH HIM AND SADLY PASSED AWAY NOT LONG AFTER IT WAS COMPLETED.
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In my previous post I neglected to mention an important fact about the book. Admiral Nelson was very adept at inserting liberal amounts of humor in his writings. That makes it almost impossible to put the book down once you start reading. Here is an example: When negotiating a very sharp bend in the river the PETO and drydock got sideways and ended up 70 yards or so in a farmers corn field. It was there several days tied up to an old willow tree waiting for the water level to drop. "The farmer in whose corn field the drydock sat, a Mr. Peacock, was reportied as boasting that he was the only farmer in the world that had a submarine in his corn field. It was rumored that he was charging admission for prople to pass through his property to view the submarine".
K0EFV
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In addition to redoing my book on REQUIN, I'm currently in the initial stages of researching the USS CATFISH (SS-339)/ARA SANTA FE (S-21)...
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I have a vet here that attends post 241 that served on the Catfish. I would be happy to try and get you in contact with him if you would like.
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I have a vet here that attends post 241 that served on the Catfish. I would be happy to try and get you in contact with him if you would like.
That would be great... email me at ssr481@verizon.net. I've got a lot of material from the Argentinian side of things... especially in 1982.. haven't had a chance to really get into the CATFISH side...
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Jim,
I assume you've talked to Ron Martini already? I believe he served on the Catfish.
Thanks for joining up by the way. I'm looking forward to your further input on things.
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In addition to redoing my book on REQUIN, I'm currently in the initial stages of researching the USS CATFISH (SS-339)/ARA SANTA FE (S-21)...
Here at the USSVI Blueback base we have a retired HMC who qualified on the Catfish in 1960. Let me know if you want me to get you in touch with him.
Dave
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In addition to redoing my book on REQUIN, I'm currently in the initial stages of researching the USS CATFISH (SS-339)/ARA SANTA FE (S-21)...
Here at the USSVI Blueback base we have a retired HMC who qualified on the Catfish in 1960. Let me know if you want me to get you in touch with him.
Dave
Send him my way... thanks...
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Jim,
I assume you've talked to Ron Martini already? I believe he served on the Catfish.
Thanks for joining up by the way. I'm looking forward to your further input on things.
Yup...already in touch with him...and yes, he did qual on CATFISH
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Hey everyone, I just picked up this -so far- really good and informative/historical book. It is called "The Depths Of Courage" by Flint Whitlock and Ron Smith (a WWII subvet) it was published last November. Flint Whitlock is from Denver, Co, I may have to try and contact him. O, by the way, the Batfish is referenced in here, and there are pictures of her galley and crews mess in the book.
Here is the link to the publishers info on the book: http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780425217436,00.html (http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780425217436,00.html)
KOEFV: It says that Clay Deckers stories/ info is in the book.
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Cool. Can we get copies of those pics. We can use all we can get. Investigate this a little.
Rick
P.S. I still have nto gotten that money off. I iwll send it out tomorrow or Tuesday at the lates.
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This is an after thought. The Muskogee War Memorail is starting to develope a military library. Long term is to develope a library of both hard and soft copy books tha twill become available to the public about military history. The short term goal is to get books and lots of them. We currently have a large number of good sub books. I cannot give titles or numbers at this time and that has not bee cataloged. We are still trying to get the front of the house cleaned up.
Send any extra copies our way. We would love to have them.
Rick
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...It is called "The Depths Of Courage" by Flint Whitlock and Ron Smith (a WWII subvet)...
Ron Smith is known as "Warshot" on many BBS/Forums. He's a good fella. I've emailed him before.
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Ok, Rick I will see if I can scan the photos in. If not I will ask the author to send you some copies.
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Hey Rick, just got an email back from the author, he wants to know if you want prints, or electronic copies? Let me know so I can tell him.
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electornic copies are best. Especially if they come on CD. We can reporduce them for the museum from there.
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I just swiped a good looking copy of Batfish, the Champion "Submarine-Killer" Submarine of World War II
by Hughston E. Lowder and Jack Scott off eBay. I'm also ordering USS Silversides by Robert Trumbull from Torpedo Junction. I'll have lots of good reading to do!
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Good deal, remember that Lowder was one of my crew members. He has since passed on though...
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...It is called "The Depths Of Courage" by Flint Whitlock and Ron Smith (a WWII subvet)...
Ron Smith is known as "Warshot" on many BBS/Forums. He's a good fella. I've emailed him before.
In the book, it details how Ron Smith got the nickname Warshot. He was a torpedoman in the Aft room, and fired a torpedo right as the tdc spindle missed 2 notches on the torpedo, and said to himself it is going to miss, yet that torpedo is the only one that hit the ship, and it sank, so the crew called him warshot and the captain congratulated him on the shot. Pretty cool story.
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A new book: Nautilus
The Ice Diaries by Carl Lavo and Captain William R. Anderson
Tradepaper type published by Thomas Nelson available July 29, 2008
ISBN 9780785227595
The book was completed before Captain Anderson passed away in 2007.
It tells the story (recently declassified) of the trips to the North Pole of the Nautilus.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0785227598/ronmartinisnavysA/
Pricing: $24.99 You pay $16.49 but if you pre-order now you will save an additional 5%
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THE BOOK TITLE THE ICE DIARIES IS CORRECT BUT CARL LAVO DID NOT WRITE IT.THE AUTHOR IS DON KEITH
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2 MORE BOOS ON MUSEUM BOATS
1-BLUEBACK-SCOTT C.S. STONE
2-24 TORPEDOES AND 13 BUTTONS-HOWARD DISHONG A BOOK ABOUT THE USS COD
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A new book: Nautilus
The Ice Diaries by Carl Lavo and Captain William R. Anderson
Tradepaper type published by Thomas Nelson available July 29, 2008
ISBN 9780785227595
The book was completed before Captain Anderson passed away in 2007.
It tells the story (recently declassified) of the trips to the North Pole of the Nautilus.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0785227598/ronmartinisnavysA/
Pricing: $24.99 You pay $16.49 but if you pre-order now you will save an additional 5%
There is a WWII SubVet out here who stayed in after WWII Put Nautilus into commision, and went on that patrol under the North Pole. It was real interesting to talk to him.
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First of all, thanks for the updates. I've modified my original post to reflect the additions.
Second, I have finished reading Batfish, the Champion "Submarine-Killer" Submarine of World War II by Hughston E. Lowder and Jack Scott. This was a wonderful, wonderful book. Not too long, not too short. It doesn't repeat a bunch of the "whys" and "how-comes" that so many books do. This book is about the Batfish, period. The last chapter is really great too, which talks of how the boat was acquired by Muskogee to become a museum.
When I got to page 243 (the book has 244 pages) I read this paragraph:
"She is perhaps the only submarine in the world one can view almost from the bottom up. And with her keel four feet into the moist sand, electrolysis works like acid upon her bottom. Unless lifted onto a drydock, she'll be rusted through in twenty years or so."
After reading that paragraph, I immediately flipped back to the front pages to search for a copyright date....1980! ???
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IT HAS ME WONDERING HAS THE BATFISH EVER HAD HER KEEL CHECKED SINCE SHE WAS PUT IN PLACE?
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To My knowledge, no. The good news is the that the Cathidic protection is in place and functioning well.
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I UNDERSTAND THAT DON KEITH WILL BE AT THE USSV CONVENTION IN FT.WORTH SEPT 4-6 TO SIGN HIS NEW BOOK ON THE NAUTILUS.THIS WILL BE A GREAT CHANCE TO MEET HIM AND GET A SIGNED COPY.
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Thanks for all the great comments about my submarine books! Some news:
We are hoping to be able to announce THE ICE DIARIES in paperback after the first of the year. The book has done very well and reamins on many of Amazon's bestseller lists. More on that book can be found here: http://donkeith.com/index.php?p=13
I have a new book coming in late March 2010. WAR BENEATH THE WAVES tells the story of the USS Billfish and a 15-hour depth charge attack that brought out the worst but also the absolute best in her crew. You can go here to learn more: http://donkeith.com/index.php?p=2
Glad to see so many other authors are working on books about the various boats. We MUST tell these stories!
Don Keith
www.donkeith.com
www.n4kc.com
www.facebook.com/donkeith
www.n4kc.blogspot.com
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Don
When are you coming back to the Drum?
James Scottt is just starting a book about the Drum and the Silversides.
Tom
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Tom:
I was down your way for a signing in October in Fairhope and in November at the Junior League Christmas Jubilee but did not get a chance to get by the Drum either trip. I did ask the Barnes & Noble folks if they were still supplying FINAL PATROL to the gift shop but they weren't sure there had been any copies sent over there lately. I still think the gift shop can buy them from a distributor cheaper and make more for the gift shop.
I brag about you and all the work you do on the boat all the time. Hope the "Old Girl" is hanging together and that millions are going through her "innards." I hope to see you all soon. Good to hear from you and the best of the holidays to everyone there at the Alabama and Drum!
Don
www.donkeith.com
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I know this thread is old (they ALL are) but Mark Allen has a book on the BATFISH as well. Leader Of The Pack: The Fleet Submarine Uss Batfish In World War II
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You're right, Blackwing. If none of us post, the posts get old! I've heard good things about the Batfish book but I have not yet read it. I've WRITTEN more books lately than I have READ! But that's the nature of what I do.
Since my last post, I've done a book on Commander Dudley "Mush" Morton and the USS Wahoo titled Undersea Warrior. See more at http://www.donkeith.com/index.php?p=18. Commander (USN Retired) George Wallace and I have also published our second novel, a submarine thriller, Firing Point. Details at http://www.donkeith.com/index.php?p=20. It is still in pre-production as a major motion picture. But if Hollywood was a U.S. fleet boat, we'd be speaking Japanese now!
I saw the Drum from a distance a while back and it looks like Tom Bowser and the crew are doing some great work over there. Does anyone have updates on Clamagore and Cavalla?
Don Keith
www.donkeith.com
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Hi Don,
I must have missed your December post. I don't think the gift shop has your book, I will check tomorrow. We are working in and on the fuel/ballast tanks, been in them two years now and will most likely spend another three years in them, great fun.
We have a new book coming out soon called The War Below by James Scott, it is about the Drum, the Silversides and the Tang. It is a good read.
Tom
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Tom, that is great! Glad you are still in those tanks and keeping the old girl pretty and painted up.
On the books, I lost contact with the lady at the Barnes & Noble in Daphne. She was the one that was checking with the gift shop to see if they needed copies of FINAL PATROL. I still think the gift shop could get better prices from whatever distributor they use for other books and make more money that way for the museum. Let me know if they get the book back in and next time I'm down that way I'll come by and sign any copies they have in stock. That might help them sell, too. The gift shop can just tell the distributor they want to order ISBN 0451219511. They can buy them through a distributor cheaper than I can!
All the best, Tom, and it is great to hear from you.
Don Keith
www.donkeith.com
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I know this thread is old (they ALL are) but Mark Allen has a book on the BATFISH as well. Leader Of The Pack: The Fleet Submarine Uss Batfish In World War II
I own the book myself and I apologize for not updating this book thread to reflect its release. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! The original post has been updated.
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i have several of your books mr keith and just purchased one earlier today :) very good author.
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Thanks Don
I talked to the gift shop manager today and I will pass on the book number to her. We have a new manager and she is wanting to do what ever she can to help us.
Tom
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5/29/13
Added The War Below: The Story of Three Submarines That Battled Japan by James Scott to the list.
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Added a link to Tom Bowser's new Drum book:
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Lives-USS-Drum/dp/098938330X/
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Tom's book is FANTASTIC! You'll feel like you are back inside a diesel boat when you thumb through all those great photos. It also shows just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to all the work he and Leslie have done to restore the DRUM.
Congrats, Tom!
Don Keith
www.donkeith.com (http://www.donkeith.com)
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iF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT THE USS GRUNION, THERE ARE TWO BOOKS RECENTLY PUBLISHED. THE FIRST IS CALLED FATAL DIVE AND THE SECOND IS CALLED, WE REMEMBER THEM: A BIOGRAPHICAL SUPPLEMENT FOR FATAL DIVE.
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I responded to your submarine books but I can't find it so I'll try again. Two books you can but tell the story about the USS Grunion. The Grunion was sunk in the Bering sea July 30th, 1942, all hands lost. The titles of the books are: " Fatal Dive" and "We Remember Them: A Biographical Supplement for Fatal Dive".