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Title: periscopes
Post by: croesch on May 02, 2008, 01:38:25 PM
Here is a photo of a periscope on display at the Great Lakes Naval Memorial and Museum (USS Silversides SS236, Muskegon, Michigan).  We are looking for replacement parts to restore the optics to function.  Any suggestions?  Charley Roesch, croesch@comcast.net.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Rick on May 02, 2008, 02:53:53 PM
Good luck.   

we are in the same boat (no pune intended here).  We have both of our scopes but the optics were damaged by freezing water some years ago.  I will keep an eye on this line and share any info that we have. 
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Lance Dean on May 02, 2008, 02:55:08 PM
I'm trying to contact some folks who might be able to add to this thread.  Hopefully they'll respond.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: JohnG on May 02, 2008, 04:50:54 PM
I did some hunting online and found nada. Maybe you could ask the Navy and see if they know of anyone that can fix them. All they could do is say no.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: crystal on May 02, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
Contact Ron Roehmholdt, Exhibits Director at the Naval Undersea Museum (360) 396-5813; email = RRoehmho@kpt.nuwc.navy.mil he is the man with MANY answers!
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Paul Farace on May 07, 2008, 01:33:59 AM
Paul Lapinski, former Kollmorgen field service manager, will contact you shortly (if he hasn't already) to discuss parts for your Type 2 Cold War era periscope. Looks like it might be easier to just get a new scope. Lots available these days!

Paul
 :o
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on May 07, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
Batfish scopes need new lower optics and some TLC to the internal gears/mechanisms for switching magnification.  We'd like to hear from him, too.   ;D
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Rick on May 07, 2008, 11:23:30 AM
Mark S,
You have this one.   Keep me posted.  I will continue to watch the web site.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on May 07, 2008, 11:41:27 AM
Roger that.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Paul Farace on May 08, 2008, 10:17:15 AM
I'll let Paul Lapinski know that he should visit this BBS... although I can't spell Paul's last name correctly (LAPINSKI, not 'sky)... I do know this much about scopes... the mechanism that switches between low and high magnification consists of two stainless steel ribbons that travel up the scope shaft. These ribbons are thinner than a human hair and according to Mr. Lapinski, are a vulnerable point in the scope design. He said that eventually they break and are veerrrry expensive to repair (bad news). What they do is switch a magnifier optic group into the periscope's head assembly. COD's works, for now... which is why I don't allow visitors to play with them. Our staff has been warned about what happens to the guy who "breaks" them....  :knuppel2:

Paul (the one who can barely spell periscope)...

Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on May 08, 2008, 10:46:00 AM
That's very interesting to know.  If that's the case, then we'd be happy to just get the 1X view to work, again, on each scope.  We're surrounded by trees and a 4X magnification wouldn't do us a lot of good, anyway.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on May 12, 2008, 04:01:42 PM
Any luck getting a hold of Mr. Lapinski?  I'd actually like to get him down to the boat and let him see what we're up against first hand.  I'll try to post some pictures of the busted optics in a few weeks.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Lance Dean on June 01, 2008, 10:51:48 PM
Last time I talked to Charley, he had not heard back from anyone about his periscope predicament.  Anyone able to help the Silversides with this?
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on June 02, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
We really need a scope guru to give ours some TLC, too.   :'(
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Paul Farace on June 02, 2008, 10:47:43 AM
I've just forwarded the URL link to Paul Lapinski for this discussion thread... the doctor is on his way (hopefully)...

"Paging Dr. Howard, Paging Dr. Fine...."

PF

 :crazy2: :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on June 02, 2008, 10:50:50 AM
We don't need the Three Stooges.  :D
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Rick on June 02, 2008, 04:42:28 PM
I have seen several technichal disagrams and knowing the basic concepts of the scops they should nto be hard to work ont.  The bigest problem will be removing the 2k lbs scopes from their houseings and finding the fabricators or suppliers that can get us parts....
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Paul Farace on June 02, 2008, 10:55:54 PM
What will you do next? Perform brain surgery on your kids?  Some stuff should be left to the experts!!!  :uglystupid2:

Wait till you hear from Paul Lapinski....

CALLING PAUL LAPINSKI... CALLING PAUL LAPINSKI ...  please report to the SUBMARINEMUSEUMS.ORG BBS STAT!!!


PF :D
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Lance Dean on June 02, 2008, 11:27:19 PM
Paul Lapinski registered today on the forum.

http://www.submarinemuseums.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=62

Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: MWALLEN on June 03, 2008, 03:22:30 PM
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What will you do next? Perform brain surgery on your kids?

Yep...I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on June 03, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
LOL!

Paul, some of us do have mechanical/aerospace engineering degrees.  Reading prints and technical documents isn't out of our league.  If I can figure out how a hydromechanical fuel control works for a jet engine, then I think I can figure out a periscope.  What we really need Mr. Lapinki for is to help us find parts and come up with the best repair solution.  I'm hoping that we don't have to pull the scopes out of their housings, but we'll see what he says.
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Lapinski on June 03, 2008, 09:30:42 PM
Hi Folks,

OK, I got the message. Sounds like we have a few projects out there. I will try to help as much as possible. In most cases, a replacement periscope may be in order. I have not worked on a display project for about 2 1/2 years after many years of activity. I do have some parts available and have access to documentation. I still consult for Kollmorgen. I will check the availability of surplus periscopes.

Paul Lapinski
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Paul Farace on June 04, 2008, 12:26:05 AM
ooooohhhh thank God you're here Paul.... I was about to give up hope and allow the witch doctors to shake their rattles and blow their magic dust on the scopes of several subs!   

Come to think of it... it might help all of us...  (the magic dust that is...)   :coolsmiley:

Welcome aboard!

Paul Farace
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: MWALLEN on June 04, 2008, 11:52:12 AM
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allow the witch doctors to shake their rattles and blow their magic dust

I don't know any witch doctors in Oklahoma, but there are a few medicine men around these here parts
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Rick on June 04, 2008, 12:55:51 PM
Sorry,  we are much mor civalized here.  We use rubber chickens.  We do not injur animals.....  :2funny:
Title: Re: periscopes
Post by: Tom Bowser on June 04, 2008, 06:30:48 PM
Rick can I borrow one of your rubber chikens, ours flew the coop.

Paul Lapinski, it is great to see you here, if you happen to hear of any extra scopes the Drum can use one also, one scope is in good shape we just need to clean the optics, is that doable? the other one is totally black inside don't know what happenned there.
Tom Bowser