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Title: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: MWALLEN on July 10, 2010, 04:37:45 PM
After Tom from the Drum gave me some hands-on training when I was in Mobile last Wednesday, I was able to get our bow planes rigged out manually.

After the clutch was set and the brake released, Ed and I (along with a few others than helped manually turn the wheel) after about 15 minutes were able to rig out the planes.

Here are some photos.  (1) Special Ed standing on port plane, (2) head on view, (3) 3/4 view.

Once it cools down and the wasp activity isn't a life and death situation, I'll look into greasing the gears and cleaning the planes.  Unfortunately, there is still that deck issue to take care of   :D

Mark
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Tom Bowser on July 10, 2010, 06:22:26 PM
Well done Mark, you were right, you couldn't wait to get back to the Batfish. Looks cool.
Tom
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: MWALLEN on July 10, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
Thanks Tom...

And for comparison, here are some "before" pictures...

You'll also note in the second photo that the anchor at one time was hanging over the side.  One of our volunteers...Vaughn Newkirk...got it back in the correct place.

Mark
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: W5HOY on July 10, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Now that is cool! Way to go Mark! Victories come in small steps! :)
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Lance Dean on July 10, 2010, 11:01:02 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Rick on July 11, 2010, 02:49:17 PM
My only grip is that this occured without me being able to see it.   :knuppel2:

good job Mark A.   I am very glad you guys were able to do this especially now that we have a date for getting another layer of paint on the boat.. 

Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on July 13, 2010, 06:00:22 PM
So Mark,

I am going to ASS/U/ME that you wrote down the procedure to extend the bow planes in Manual mode?? Maybe another boat would like to duplicate what you have done, I know when we raised ours into their actual "stow" position it took 2 come alongs and a dedicated vol to make that happen..

I have been threatening to lower ours on the Torsk for the last 2 years since WE started the school of the boat, and this year I may have to make good on my threat to lower them onto the pier during the work weekend :coolsmiley:

Then again that may just get me removed permenantly from the boat  ::)

Darrin
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on July 14, 2010, 11:52:55 AM
Mark took a picture of a placard in Drum's FTR showing how to operate it in manual mode.  It shows you everything that you need to know.  We should print it out and tape it up in our FTR.

If you guy's drop the Torsk's bow planes, will they hit the dock?
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on July 14, 2010, 06:36:03 PM
the bow planes will be very close if they don't hit it :2funny:  sadly we have bigger fish to fry during the work weekend and it will be pushed off to a later date ;)  or maybe when they go to sleep during the work weekend :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on July 15, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
15 minutes and a few willing souls is all that you need.  ;)
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on July 26, 2011, 06:08:45 PM
Mark,

Can you please post the pictures taken for the manual mode on lowering the bow planes, I have heard rumors that this maybe something that the Torsk would like to do in the near future

Darrin
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on July 26, 2011, 06:12:15 PM
I will be back to the boat in 2 weeks.  I will take a few photos of what we are talking about.
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on August 15, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
Darrin, I was on the boat yesterday working on the sound-powered phone circuits and completely forgot to bring a camera.  I'l be back in a few weeks and will do so then.
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on February 15, 2013, 10:48:03 PM
Hmmm 2 years later and no pictures, I do know that there are some onboard the TORSK that are trying to lower them once more and may have figured it out by now how to do so and it would still be nice for SOMEONE to send the procedures from their boat to Chief Mike on the Torsk so that no mistakes are made

Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on February 18, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
I know... I know...   If it's any consolation, we're still waiting (after 5 years) for someone to open up their telephone switch box and photograph the wiring connections to the switch panel.   :knuppel2:  I remember the Torsk switch panel being blocked by another piece of electrical equipment (I think it was the air radar unit near the trim station in the control room).

We spent more time working in the FTR this weekend trying to figure out why the ringer in there wants to continually ring (I think the culprit is the ringer box in the FER).  I don't remember seeing any instructions on rigging out the bow planes being posted anywhere in there.  So, I'll have to email Mark Allen to can scan his copy and post it on here.
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on February 18, 2013, 06:31:18 PM
Duly noted on the telephone switch box and the JA Phone circuit uses a "growler" that is in every box to create enough power (by hand crank) to send the signal to the station selected on the box in each compartment and has NO electrical power provided through any source other than the hand cranks (growlers) that are located in each "call box"

Do you have bilge alarms installed? because if they are installed and still work you may have water in your bilges.. and IF I remember correctly that the San Tanks had NO alarms attached to them to keep them from being over filled, you should have a yarway (fill gauge) inside of the head mounted on the bulkhead next to the mirror.

Have you ever thought about having San Tank #1 pumped out using a honey sucker tossing a hose down through the FTR Weapons loading hatch and then using the existing toilet and ball valve.. Torsk does that for the FWD Head, no modifications required, no cutting of the hull

Darrin
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on February 19, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
Not sure if a honey sucker hose could reach our torpedo room.  It's a long way down to the ground from the bow.

We have not looked into the bilge  alarms, but we still have the yarway gauges.
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Rick on February 26, 2013, 01:12:38 PM
I can say with reasonable confidence that he bildge is dry.  3 Creek kids and a bunch of buckets took care of roughly 75 gallons of bildge water. :2funny:
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: MWALLEN on July 20, 2014, 01:39:27 PM
Hi Darrin...I'm way late on this and I apologize.  As you are well aware, I've been away for a while and am only now getting back on the forum.  Then I had to find this one photo of the placard among literally a thousand photos of the Batfish...then I had some generic name for the photo and it wasn't in the folder I thought it was.  Man, I need to get organized.

Anyway, below is the placard I got from the Drum.  Again, many thanks to Tom for helping learn the ropes.  Thanks to Ed and Mark S. who helped me with the manual labor.

Sorry again for the delay.

Mark
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on July 20, 2014, 03:40:45 PM
No worries my friend,

I believe that TVA put the bow planes down a couple of times last year or the year before when we started discussing the bow planes on here, and TVA has not been onboard since April of this year and are just as frustrated as you all are on the Batfish.

Personally I haven't been onboard her in over 2 years now due to retiring to Florida in '12 to take care of my parents, sadly both have now passed away (mom 29 Jul 13 and dad 1 Jul 14) and with TVA being removed from the boat I have little reason now to go back to Baltimore other than to see family that I have up there and they all have busy schedules.  On the 25 I will be in Daytona to have a beer on the beach with my lady and my fathers ashes to celibrate what would have been his 76th birthday.

Thank you for posting the picture my friend, hopefully one day we all will be back on our respective museum boats once more and have a good relationship with the museums instead of what a few of the volunteer groups have been going through what now appears to be on more than a few boats and for more than a few years.

Take care and keep your chin up

Darrin
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mark Sarsfield on July 21, 2014, 10:05:14 AM
Darrin,

  Sorry to hear about your parents.


Mark
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mike on July 21, 2014, 12:06:41 PM
On the 25 I will be in Daytona to have a beer on the beach with my lady and my fathers ashes to celibrate what would have been his 76th birthday.

Sorry to hear about this as well, Darrin...
We're still waiting to do the same with my Mother's ashes, and it's been 18+ years...
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on July 21, 2014, 11:22:46 PM
Thank you Mark and Mike for your condolances, it has been a rough 2 years and once this is over hopefully we can start the school of the boat again.. I need to call a few people and see if I want to close the former school down and restart a new one... What do you all think about that?
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mike on July 22, 2014, 12:29:59 AM
"School of the Boat?"
Sure...
"Eustis"?
Absolutely.
"Rucker"?
Oh, my my...oh hell yes.
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mike on July 22, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
Out of curiosity - how much of a pain in the 4th point of contact is it to rig the planes out? This was hydraulic when operational, right?
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Darrin on July 22, 2014, 08:34:34 PM
Mike,
The bow planes are normally lowered using hydraulics however they can be lowered manually that consists of using the chain fall that also is attached to the Fwd Capstan. Personally I have never lowered them (i was on a 688 LA Class Boat in the Early 90's)

Go through the school of the boat because we had talked about it at one time or another

Darrin
Title: Re: Batfish bow planes are now rigged out
Post by: Mike on July 22, 2014, 10:02:30 PM
Thanks... getting there...