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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2008, 02:32:35 PM »
Unfortunately, as far as I know, we don't have ANY on, around, or near our boat.  :(

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2008, 03:02:46 PM »
Here are two pictures of the straps on the Pampanito

http://www.maritime.org/wish-strap.htm

With all this talk about new torpedos - can I have one to take home and play with?  ;D
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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2008, 03:09:56 PM »
Tom, your Mark 27 looks nice. Good work.

Mark A., your new fish look in great shape. I'm from the school of "the more, the merrier" when it comes to loading torpedoes in museum boat torpedo rooms. That way, visitors truly can begin to try and grasp just what life among the tin fish was like.

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2008, 06:08:26 PM »
CT- I will get photos of our straps this weekend, they are different than the Pamanito's, we may also be able to send one for you to reverse engineer.

JT- Come on down to the Drum, we will let you play with our torpedoes to your hearts content.

Fred- thanks, we had fun. Had to replace 50% of the metal, all metal no bondo or fiberglass.
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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2008, 10:35:02 PM »
Correy,
I placed a call into the Torsk Volunteer Association director of the board tonight and asked to see IF we have ANY extra PORTSMOUTH torpedo lashing straps that we could send to you for reverse engineering, while we have some extra EB lashing straps there are minor differences between the two I could not tell you what they are because I have never used them on a WWII diesel boat, the 688's are the same regardless of the yard the boat was manufactured in and I understand that there was a difference between the earlier boats straps. Be forewarned IF we have one that we can spare you will have to help pay part (if not all of the shipping) for the strap and it will be on loan to the Batfish. Hopefully Monday or Tuesday I will know if we have any to spares to send to you, and yes IF possible we would like the plans also so we can replace the EB straps that we have modified to work on Torsk.

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2008, 12:03:59 AM »
Darrin,

That sounds like a fair deal. Rick, do you think that the museum can pick up the shipping cost? In return, I'll do this at no cost to anyone AND I'll share what information we get with the other boats. All we'll all have to do is take these files to any reputable machine shop that can read CATIA V-5 files. With these files, any good machine shop can turn out all the metal components and reproduce them to within +/- .030".

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2008, 01:53:40 PM »
corry

You got it.  Let me know how much and I will get something worked out.

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2008, 01:57:42 PM »
Hopefully I will have an answer for you all early next week about the torpedo lashing strap

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2008, 07:36:39 PM »
Here are the photos of the straps on the Drum.

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2008, 10:10:27 PM »
So in the second picture, is that a leather covered braided steel strap? It's hard to tell.

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2008, 11:22:58 AM »
It should be covered braided strapping
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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2008, 02:10:43 PM »
Oh guys, this should be almost too easy to reproduce. The biggest cost is going to be for the brass needed to cast them out of...unless we wanted to use aluminium. That alone could almost cut the cost of reproduction in half. It would also be a way to tell the originals out there from repros. These will take some time and effort but I think we can have the center piece cast and then just assemble them ourselves. After I get the scanning done, I'll get some price quotes from some of the local machine shops.

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2008, 05:53:42 PM »
Yes it is braided steel wire. The other half is just 1/4" steel. Not sure why they only wraped the braided side in leather.
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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2008, 01:55:55 PM »
Waiting on Baltimore Maritime Museum to make the decision right now about the torpedo lashing strap, as soon as I get the word I will let you know

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Re: New Torpedoes
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2008, 06:22:03 PM »
UPDATE:   er-ah there is no update yet, BMM hasn't responded yet from what I understand to the request for us to loan you a strap :tickedoff: